Briatore: Now we have drivers forced to behave on the track like accountants 20 March, 2014 179 Flavio Briatore not impressed Former team boss Flavio Briatore has slammed the new face of Formula 1 after the first race of the all new V6 turbo era. The 63-year-old Italian, absent from Formula 1 in the wake of the crashgate scandal, said that he watched the Melbourne race last weekend and thought it was “disrespectful” to the spectators and television audience. “They (the spectators) do not understand why the drivers do not attack, why and how they’re saving fuel, and why champion drivers refuse even to defend their position. “This was a strange spectacle, leaving behind the most beautiful sport in the world,” Briatore told Italy’s La Gazzetta dello Sport. Sounds of silence in Melbourne He said it was wrong to let the car manufacturers succeed in their push for the all-new regulations, featuring ‘greener’ engines that use less fuel. “They delegated the writing of rules to engineers who do not care about the fans or entertainment,” said Briatore. “The result is terrible. Of course it is true that the principles of the rules are correct, but we must not forget that Formula 1 must be about the competition between drivers. “Obliging them to drive slowly is contrary to common sense. It’s like introducing a rule that means Ronaldo can only touch the ball ten times in a match. “Now we have the stars [drivers] forced to behave on the track like accountants. Valentino Rossi unimpressed “If Formula 1 does not change again in the near future, then the audience will be lost. Look at the comments on the internet, in blogs, on Twitter — they did not like the Australian Grand Prix. “It was an indecipherable and depressing show. “This new Formula 1 came too fast with too little testing, so at the very beginning Vettel and Hamilton were missing from the fight. This is unacceptable and now we have chaos.” Also unhappy with the ‘new’ Formula 1 is the flamboyant MotoGP veteran Valentino Rossi. “I was expecting something different from the new Formula 1 rules, instead I just found it boring,” the Italian is quoted by Tuttosport. “I think motorcycles and cars should race with the fuel they need, but what is happening now is just an exercise for the engineers,” added Rossi. (GMM) Subbed by AJN. Content on GrandPrix247.com by: staff & contributors, Reuters syndication, GMM service, Getty Images, Formula 1 teams, sponsors & organisations. Mike Ramay I do not want to watch a science experiment. When they want to race, let me know, otherwise I’ll go mow my lawn. Jerry Holloway There is still plenty of racing going on, though I agree it would be better without the fuel restrictions. Qualifying was the best it’s been in years and the race wasn’t bad either. Formula Future Even if I detest Briatore for his arrogance and amazing lack of morality and style, this time I couldn’t agree more with with his comment. F1 has lost its fundamental principles. Shame! hfghfh Stay away from the F1 cheater! McLarenfan I think we shall see a lot more people complaining about the New FIA implemented form of F1 which for all their speeches is not green it is Hybrid Technology but GREEN NOT. The FIA also keeps saying we need to cut cost but introduce the most expensive changes ever! I have no problems with turbo’s, fuel injection strange engine maps and other forms of engine management but I think the FIA have left the planet mentally and I am wondering if they are maneuvering F1 to fail so that Formula E becomes the new F1. I for one will not be watching Formula E Barlow However you feel about Briatore, his insights on the AustralianGP are to the point!! Accountants and engineers have the upper hand now, the fans are in the back of the Formula 1 bus. Well maybe the team owners will fix it, before F1 goes the way of 43 man Squamish!! That’s why you never heard of it, it disappeared, that’s right, through lack of interest!! Tamburello1994 No lipstck is enough for this pig. I watched ‘Indycars’ fall right off the map of relevance with the introduction of the IRL. I hope we aren’t seeing history repeat itself. John Peter Why is the FIA continuously trying to slow the cars down??!!?? What is wrong having V10’s revving up to 21000 rpm? What is wrong with innovative technologies like blown diffusers?After all, F1 is the pinnacle of motor sport. Was anyone injured during the V10 era? NO!! Danger is the reason why these drivers have such a high profile and are paid so well. I am sick and tired of racing becoming an engineering game. I wish the drivers can race again at the highest of speeds and the most advanced technology. I miss the days of Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost, Nigel Mansell and Nelson Piquet. That was pure unadulterated racing….true gladiators…FIA..please please bring back those days… Dean Craddock I do not listen to this man as he will do and say anything to get on. We all know that he prefers his drivers to behave like assassins to assist his ego and bank balance. Steve Let me get this straight… You are complaining that these cars are slow and less dangerous? These cars may be one second slower than previous years cars (just like the V8’s were when they were introduced, but got faster as time went on) however top speed is 30kph faster in straights. How is increasing torque three-fold and reducing downforce while increasing top speed not more dangerous than last year?? I bet you didn’t even watch the race. RBC Agreed 100%. Raw cars, real racing, not computers and engineers racing, http://darrenstuart.com RetroRaceCars_ninjamonk To be honest this man lacks knowledge of the F1 spectator and I find it insulting that he would think that we wouldn’t understand or know what is going on. F1 fans are the most engaged on the planet. RBC Maybe all the drivers agree to do the first 20 laps of every race at a slow pace in a long line, then race flat out until the end, Screw the FIA. http://batman-news.com Scott If the FIA and/or Ecclestone are serious about addressing this, just increase the available fuel. Obviously the cars are designed around the 100kg tanks, so for this year split the race in 2 heats like DTM, MotoGP, etc. Next year: larger fuel tanks and bump revs back up…the 3-4 engine manufacturers obviously know how to do this! Either way, the FIA needs to give the engines and the drivers their balls back so they can get on with actually racing. They should be embarrassed about what we saw in Australia http://batman-news.com Scott I was a diehard Indycar fan until the split. After the IRL came to be, both series were flooded with pay drivers, ChampCars died, and now Indycar is relegated to the minors with good, not great cars and drivers. We saw the inaugural race in Baltimore and witnessed an eight car pileup at the hairpin that took 10 minutes to clear out. Scary parallels between what has happened with this series and the new F1! Tobbe Lundh John Peter: You are 100% right. I agree…. Richard D’Ornellas I have watched F1 for many years and have travelled all over the world to see the races. I watched the opening race of this season and I think the FIA are going to kill the sport. They having taken the racing out of F1. It is a sad day for me as I really enjoyed the sport. Steve You can’t just ‘bump’ the revs back up in these engines. They are designed for a particular fuel limit (in this case it is the fuel limit at 10,500). Increasing the rev limit isn’t going to do jack. You have to bump the fuel limit, which won’t happen because it would require a ground up redesign of the engine. wpicky77 IMO, F1 is going in the wrong direction… fans want loud, fast and pushing to the extreme limits.. F1 is in the entertainment business, it’s our Hollywood for us crazy racing fans.. If Hollywood movie’s were all censored up with no more smoking, swearing, nudity or graphic scenes, it would be considered boring day time TV and no one would go to the movies anymore.. We go to the movies for the raw effects, openness, liberty and to dream and envy!!! F1 has gone from being the pinnacle of motor racing (Movie) to daytime censored TV (F1 Now) F1 will not survive if it tries to please all of the tree huggers!! Krunksoft John Peter: You do realize that the laws of physics and the amount of G’s the human body can take limits how fast these cars will ever go. No? The goal of F1 is not simply to go faster and faster and faster and faster. That’s not even realistic, nor is it safe. Do we really want to see these guys broken and splattered all over these circuits for our entertainment? Can they improve the pure racing aspect in the new era? Sure, but it doesn’t take cars with bigger engines revving at 20000rpm to do that. I can’t believe all this complaining about the competition on the track after THE FIRST RACE IN A NEW FORMULA!! Did you see how torquey and twitchy these cars are going around the track? Those guys have to battle the cars as much as each other right now. That only adds to the excitement IMO. In time the speed will be there. Let’s focus on having cars finish these first few races before we concern ourselves with performance. We all know there wasn’t enough testing so give them time to sort themselves out. I really think a little more patience will go a long way for some of you……and your blood pressure. RELAX people! fools “Obliging them to drive slowly is contrary to common sense. It’s like introducing a rule that means Ronaldo can only touch the ball ten times in a match. Awesome analogy. I agree 100% with Flavio and Valentino. I wouldnt say boring…though. It definitely is a curse on engineers, drivers and financing for the teams budgets etc. The end of driver competitiveness and real pure driving is eliminated. Krunksoft All of the cars in the history of F1 have been science experiments to some degree. People don’t wish technological advances in speed and safety into existence. Drivers don’t snap their fingers and get the performance out of the car that they want. You’ve been watching a science experiment for decades, luckily for all of us there was a racing series built around it that we all love. fools How does Flavio not know the F1 Sport? Surely fans know the sport too. Have you ever operated a team, win back to back WDC also a Team Principal for several years? No offense but come on…The man knows the F1. Flavio and Bernie talk all the time. He surely knows more then us fans. I can bet that. Mike Ramay Agreed, but….in yesteryear, the science was used to make the cars go faster. This time it appears to be some ecological / environmental experiment that during, if we’re lucky, a race might break out. Krunksoft The cars cannot go infinitely faster, again, because of the science involved. It just isn’t possible or safe. Give these engineers time and they will squeeze the speed out of the new power units. We just saw one race with a bunch of teams happy just to have at least one car finish. And I saw a little bit of racing out there myself and it was encouraging, but I also realize that once the drivers can stop fighting their own cars they’ll be able to focus entirely battling each other to finish as high up the grid as possible. It’s not going to happen overnight. Steve If that’s the case, where are we going to get these engines from? You find me an engine manufacturer that is willing to spend hundreds of millions of pounds on designing, building and testing the engines that you wish for. I think you will find zero. Grow up and look at the bigger picture. topkill Flavio is just p*ssed because he can’t tell which driver he wants to crash to win the race for his favorite anymore. Go away you UGLY old goat. If you smell as bad as you look, even your money will not get you laid. Nowhereman He’s right on the money with this one. You people who like this sort of engineering exercise need to go away an go play cross word puzzles or something. F1 is about the best drivers given the best tools to go a specific distance qicker than everyone else….period. The fans have no stomach for this “green garbage” you call F1. Get rid of it or face the consequences of a dead sport. The fans have spoken, now react to change it back. Janjua Formula 1 is still Formula 1. Formula 1 still sounds brilliant all though not as great,outstanding as before. The only problem is the fuel saving, the fuel should not be limited. Drivers are still pushing to the limit,going fast, attacking the track and overtaking. Stupid spectators,audience that say F1 is not F1 any more, need to understand, that Formula 1 is still Formula 1 and that engineering and racing comes before entertainment. The people that do not like the new era because of the sound and say that it is not 100% racing are wrong and are not real fans,they do not understand the new era correctly and do not understand engineering. The Cars are still producing lots of power, are almost as fast, and have not made Formula 1 slow or bad to watch. Dave Bates Cavitation = vapour bubbles ie capachino effect or entrained gas made worse from high end gasoline. I cannot ever imagine at present these flow devices being accurate enough to control the future of F1 Do we really want one single device to control the outcome of F1 ? The reason is purely for “live, realtime ” speed & performance control by the FIA. Some grandscale scalextric set where the ” specticle ” is controled by the governing body. Ferrari turn your car up a little, Mc Laren turn down a little ! & what i cannot understand is why the compliancy ? On a personal note i am not a Red Bull fan, purely because their business is drinks & not for the future of the car industry, but on this occasion i believe them to be contesting this fuel flow regulation for the good of the sport. The fuel amount isn,t the problem, all teams agreed for either the good or bad of racing, but to take control of the flow means the future is determined by governing bodies & it would appear not up for debate because they dictate the rules. This has parallels to world politics, The 1% elites demanding compliancy from the 99% . The string pulling of world leaders & the global agenda. The world clearing banks that create wars for yet more power. Electronics are a great tool, however we should trust in them as much as the person who has control over them, ie the DSA & your emails for starters. Airport security & the ways we are all compliant to the ” rules” It would appear if a person or a particular government is not compliant, then we will be considered a rogue player in this chess game of ever changing rules. ” you are either with us ! Or against us, our leaders cry ! if you argue the point in this world of eliteist control, then you will certainly be against them. Please leave the racing alone, beacause i for one will not believe the fiddled results if there appears any sort of control. The FIA,s job is to set rules that give a level playing field, or maybe iv,e completely missed the point ! just maybe they have benevelence in their hearts, just maybe if they inform each team that they are using too much fuel, it will save the team embarrasment of running short of fuel just before the end ! Well folks, that must be it ! ! The FIA are just being friendly to the teams. Janjua F1 is here due to engineering,engineers design, manufacture and operate F1 cars. F1 is not just about the fastest driver going flat out, at the limit,It is the driver going at the limit and engineers producing the best possible car within tough regulations. F1 has not died. F1 is still F1. The drivers are still going to the limit and the racing is as entertaining as before, you fans are ridiculous. All that needs to change is the fuel limit, that probably will do hopefully. Krunksoft Please show us where engineers have decided what the best tools are for Formula One. Is there a website? A TV show? A book or magazine? When, where and how was that determined? By you?? Call it “green garbage” all you want but someday in the next 50 or so years the planet WILL reach peak oil and the last thing we will use our last reserves of oil for is stupid auto races. All of this is going to look ridiculous to most of our great grandkids. We don’t have a choice but to find alternative means of power to keep the cars flying around the track anyway. It’s not just about Co2 emissions. Krunksoft What are you talking about?? You did’t mention one thing about the actual racing, just a bunch of macho BS. Jämte 2014 Formula 1 is much more a car control championship, much more like Go-cart and proper racing….Briatore don’t know skit about that. luis gonzy Like NASCAR crap ? please noooooooooooooo!! Paul Each to their own opinion. The way Flavio is speaking you would think that there were 100 KM/H speed signs around the track and that the police were out there with their speed guns ready to catch any errant driver. There were no cars that stopped on track that ran out of fuel. The rule changes were agreed to by all teams. This is motorsport and change is inevitable. not me or is it? Yeah, real shame owners can’t tell people to crash to help Alonso anymore. John Peter Hi. Do you realise indycars are faster on the straights. Yet they could never touch f1 lap times. Making a car go fast on a straight is easy. Even Road cars can do that. And driving fast on a straight is no big deal as Any professional driver would tell you. The real challenge is the cornering speeds. That’s where the driving skill…technology and engineering comes in. That’s what makes a great driver. You think a drag racer could race f1? That’s where formula1 USED to be the greatest. Loads of downforce and yet powerful engines to get top speed. And I watched the race … and have been watching probably before you were born. John Peter I guess you are smarter than Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton and Rosberg who all prefer the old engines and cars to what we have now? Sorry. …I forgot you used to race in F1 and have beaten all these guys. My apologies. I know, we can install airbags, indicator lights, brake lights and auto gear shifts. And lastly… limit the revs to 6000, like my Hyundai Getz. That would make it all real safe. And astronauts and jet fighter pilots.. please stop your work…according to this genius you can’t take the G forces. By the way. .. I AM a physicist by profession. John Peter I agree. Most expensive engines. These are the idiots who banned turbos in in the late 80’s in the first place. It was greener then by their own logic. Then they say too powerful. Bring back the normally aspirated engines they say. Now if is not Green enough. … bring back the turbos.. what’s next…FIA idiots John Peter You’re my kinda guy. Pure racing is what we need! John Peter Lol. .. well said John Peter Yeah. .. you want him to be soft like you? John Peter It is 15000 rpm. Get your facts right before taking crap Steve Well you really shot yourself in the foot there mate. I know for a fact that Hamilton and Rosberg absolutely love these engines and everyone (even Renault drivers) love the power, torque and driveability of them. Youre just making stuff up now to try and support a weak argument. Pffft Physicist. John Peter Talking crap Steve Well done for picking and choosing what I said in my comment. You didnt even read it fully. John Peter Do you work for the FIA? LOL Steve PHWOAR Dude! Take a chill pill. My facts are absolutely spot on. I advise reading the rules before making a bigger scene. If you cant get this simple rule right what hope do we have for the rest of the stuff you have written. John Peter Agreed wholeheartedly John Peter Lol. The safety car might win the race http://darrenstuart.com RetroRaceCars_ninjamonk did I say he lacks knowledge of the F1 as a sport? No, clearly I wrote he lacks knowledge of the F1 spectator, which given his comments he clearly does. John Peter Why ? Did you meet them? Did they tell you so? You seem to know it for a fact. And H amilton must have really enjoyed driving the new engine last week. A total of 2 laps. I guess he told you personally he loved the engine after that race. Try asking Vettel about V10’s. Try asking Hamilton about V10’s or Ayrton Senna.s old car. Don’t talk thru your arse if you don’t know something. Steve I think you are the one that needs to get their facts right… I suggest you actually read the rules, you are currently on the internet they aren’t that hard to find. Steve There is an edit button, it seems you type both without your brain and your eyes. John Peter I am convinced now. You must be working for the FIA. MAYBE we should have a Flintstones type race. Just pedal with our legs. .. absolutely no gases emitted Steve At what stage did you ascertain how old I am? Steve Aaah, the classic mating call of the armchair expert… Steve You do realise these engines are making more power than last years even with the fuel limits… Steve I thought physicists were too intelligent for text-speak. Eddy The engines are faster, if the reduction in laptime is what upsets you then look at the aero! Nowhereman You are a foolish person Krunksoft. F1 will never have any impact on your ideological BS. Do your homework before you open that pie hole of yours. Green garbage is what it is plain an simple. A ploy to attract car manufacture money. It’s always about the money Krunk. You fool, we have more oil under the earth than we can use for hundreds of years. Governments have played “sheeple” like you for years now. F1 does not need to change and become a carnival of politically correct racing vehicles. No fan wanted this version and by hearing your rant, you don’t seem to be a fan but just another gulliable liberal who thinks they have it all figured out. Krunksoft No, I’m just not going to fall out in the floor and kick in a circle like a 5-year-old over the future of F1 after THE FIRST RACE IN A NEW FORMULA. I really don’t think they WANT the cars to be slower. No one does. I’m just asking that we give the mechanics and engineers time to get the most out of the cars. We all know there wasn’t nearly enough testing. Krunksoft If you base your manhood on what side of this debate you agree with I feel sorry for you. Krunksoft Hundreds of years and then…..it runs out. Still – it’s going to run out. IT WILL RUN OUT!!! Dummy!!! Where will the petrol come from?? Are we mining other planets??? It’s a finite resource and that’s what happens to them when you use them up faster than the earth can replenish them. It’s not rocket science. So you are selfish enough to not even think about conserving what we have so you can have loud race cars until you’re dead and buried. GROW UP!! There are future generations that will need these resources as well. I don’t care why F1 decided to do this. I don’t side with the FiA or the arrogant old farts who think they have the right to say what Formula One SHOULD be. This isn’t about liberal or conservative ideology, it’s about common sense and values. “Politically correct racing vehicles”???? What are you talking about? Look, start petitioning the FiA about the next formula RIGHT NOW. Tell them everything YOU want….since F1 is really about you. The FiA and the teams agreed on this current formula 5 years ago so I’d suggest you get busy. Maybe if enough people sign up they will make all the necessary changes to bring a smile back to your face when YOU watch races because as long as YOU are smiling we all smile. Krunksoft Brilliant. You’re a funny guy. Krunksoft There you go using FACTS again Steve. You know better than that!! luis gonzy Was anyone injured during the V10 era? NO!! do you remember Ayrton Senna ? well he died in a Williams FW16 that was powered by a 67-degree V10 engine by Renault Sport termed the RS6 specification, delivering approximately 820hp , everything else I do agree with you . topkill And you, John Peter, are a whiney little BIOTCH. Nowhereman Krunk, if you want “green racing” go jog around a compost pile. Krunksoft I might consider Formula E as “green racing” but I’m still going to watch. I just like auto racing. Period. Formula One is far from what Formula E will be. Nice “joke” though. Raul – Amsterdam Hahahaha John Peter Yup you are off course right. Two people died that awful weekend. I should have qualified my statement. I meant after safety was improved after that weekend. John Peter Compared to the current V8, the new V6 will have a lower rev limit of 15,000 rpm, down from 18,000 rpm. That statement is from the Renault site. Are you feeling stupid now? John Peter Tut tut.. such language. Did your parent’s teach you that? John Peter And the maximum fuel flow rate is 10500rpm and above. Not exactly at 10500pm! Steve Nope not in the slightest. You should be though. Please reread my comment and digest it correctly. topkill LOL Yes, my father played in the NFL and then was a coach of American football in colleges for over 20 years. He was worse than a marine drill sergeant when it came to “colorful” language. imad lol for the spot on photo… as for the new F1 era, it should called F1 Pacing instead of Racing. pathetic sport due to FIA policies. topkill Thank you, a brilliant commentary. I fear that much of what you say is true and I want NO part of a sport where FIA can decide which teams have to turn their fuel flow up or down during the race. The temptation for them to “make for close racing” is WAY to high. This is a really, really bad idea. Dave Bates Thank you, i,m pleased you are a thinking person, there are far too many sheeple around. Regards DB fools Hater Krunksoft Good stuff Dave. It took me three days of skipping over your comment before I finally read it and I’m glad I did. This kinda thing scares me about the future of F1, not the way the cars look or sound. Krunksoft http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113084 Just saying…. Nowhereman The current formula sucks big time.