Engine makers must make F1 loud again insists Ecclestone 19 March, 2014 162 Bernie Ecclestone Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone says it is up to Formula 1’s three engine suppliers to make the sport “loud again”. “They made them quiet, now they can make them loud again,” the Formula 1 Chief Executive said. After Melbourne race organisers slammed the new purring tones of the once-screaming sport after the 2014 season-opener, Ecclestone vowed to get to work to fix a problem that could drive promoters, sponsors and fans away. The 83-year-old put the onus of blame on the turbo V6 suppliers, Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault. “It’s a technical problem,” Ecclestone told the German newspaper Bild. “They have an obligation to give us Formula 1 with volume.” He said Melbourne is not the only worried race promoter. “The organisers of the other races are also afraid now,” said Ecclestone. “They doubt that they are going to sell enough tickets.” However, one race promoter dismissed the Australians’ suggestion that Formula 1 has breached contract by switching to such quiet engines. “There are no such clauses about minimum volume,” said the German federation ADAC’s Klaus Klotzner. “Quite the contrary, in fact.” Ecclestone, however, insisted what was offered up at Albert Park was not true Formula 1. “Formula 1 — it’s glamour, and people love glamour, right up to the moment when the engines are started. Then the noise begins,” he said. A source, however, said that the Formula 1 teams are “too busy” to consider the sound of their complex and revolutionary new engines as a priority. “At the moment, we’ve all got more on our plate than worrying about the noise,” the source told London’s Times newspaper. (GMM) Subbed by AJN. Hawk I’m sure if a boy racer can make his 1.2 Clio sound like a canon, I’m sure F1 can do the same with the new 1.6 v6 cars. As they said, they have more important things on there plate at the moment. I’d say 2015 the sound will come back, well maybe not all of it but a good 80% of what it is now. Barlow I wonder if the Formula 1 teams would be concerned if they sold only half the tickets for an F1 race weekend?? ufgrat Not much. The ticket sales refund the tracks hosting the events, and don’t make it to the teams directly. Obviously, they can’t sustain a continual loss of ticket sales, but the majority of the cash to the teams comes from the TV broadcasts. Personally, knowing that the old engines were capable of permanent hearing damage within minutes, I’m more likely to go to an F1 event now than I was. BS As a fan of music, let me put it this way… I’ve been to hundreds of concerts ranging from blue grass to death metal….metal shows sound like mud…if you don’t already know the song you are hearing, it just sounds awful. Go to a jazz or acoustic show, you hear everything…the pics and fingers touching the strings, and missed chords or beats…the singer breathing into the mic. Sure, at the metal show your adrenaline gets going and your heart rate increases…but there is so much more the you miss. Not to mention your ears ring and hearing is fuzzy for days….and your voice is horse from trying to talk to your friends or simply order a drink. After a concert with a nice clean sound, you still have your voice and no hearing damage…and best of all you have a real appreciation for the skill of the players, and craftsmanship of their instruments. So, do you like mud, or do you like Mozart? luis gonzy The promoters , the only thing that they get , is the revenue for tickets sales ; everything else the vacuum of Bernie suck it in ; that’s way Ecclestone it’s concern. Barlow Usually if people are bummed out enough to write in and complain, that means there can be a silent group of people way bigger than the original group of complainers. So how many people really do feel betrayed, by the new cars and sound. And will these people vote with there feet and stay home. I can’t imagine the race in the streets of Monaco, with the cars silently humming through the streets and quietly coming out of the tunnel, the people there will just shit!! Living in Hawaii, as I do, most of the live F1 races come on between 0100 and 0300, during the season, and for the last four years I always get up in the middle of the night and watch the races. I don’t think I will do that anymore. I just don’t know how many I will watch. Last year I bought a Lotus sticker for my truck because Kimi was driving for Lotus, this year I got a Ferrari sticker, but because of the diminished sound, I haven’t put the new sticker on yet, and probably won’t because the new cars and the sound they make don’t seem like Formula 1 anymore, it’s like Formula 1 is dead, long live Formula Hybrid, but that’s not me!! jimjimmy123 Everyone who is not concerned with the volume has never seen and heard a V8, V10 or V12 F1 car race in real life and should not really call themselves a fan. More like a keen observer. The sound is what makes the experience. BS If the tech isn’t relevant, it just becomes nostalgia. To use my music analogy again…it’s the difference between a band writing new songs that people like, or a band that just has the same old songs from 20 years ago. You can’t move forward if you’re living in the past. Paul BE – Just retire already! Jerry Holloway That’s a brilliant analogy. And I think many of us can have appreciation for both. I noticed right off this weekend so many of the subtle things that were masked by the banshee wail of the V8s: screeching tires, the crowd cheering the demise of Vettel and the rise of Ricciardo (temporarily as it turned out). I like things that require finesse, so I’m ok with the changes overall. I’m even more ok with the fact that they won’t last forever; in five or ten years there’ll be something else for the knuckledraggers among us to bemoan.