Talk of disruption within Red Bull camp escalates amid ongoing crisis 7 March, 2014 Red Bull launch their RB10 after which things went downhill for the team and their engine supplier Renault Inevitably, as the scale of Red Bull’s early season crisis becomes ever clearer, reports of possible splits within the formerly tightly knit championship outfit are now beginning to emerge. Many of the reigning world champions’ problems are undoubtedly down to engine supplier Renault and the French marque’s struggle with the new V6 turbo ‘power unit’ rules. So it is no surprise then that Red Bull, having won every title on offer since 2010 and every grand prix since last July, is supposedly on the move. But Team Principal Christian Horner on Thursday played down reports of a switch to Honda, the incoming supplier of turbo engines to McLaren next year. Red Bull and Renault have won eight titles in four years It is said that Honda is the logical choice for Red Bull, given the fact Formula 1’s existing engine suppliers, Mercedes and Ferrari, are arch rivals. But Horner insisted: “There’s still a huge amount of trust [between Red Bull and Renault]. “We’re certainly not looking outside the current agreement that we have,” he told the Telegraph. Also reported to be eyeing greener grass is world champion Sebastian Vettel, despite Red Bull playing down reports claiming that he recently threw a “hissy fit” when he realised the extent of the team’s 2014 problems. But with Red Bull so obviously struggling, the Ferrari reports were never going to be far down the road. Stefano Domenicali with Sebastian Vettel Vettel insists: “I’m not a guy who runs away when it gets difficult. That’s the case, both in my work and privately. “Of course there are always those who want to tell you the grass is greener somewhere else, but we shouldn’t forget the values of honesty, loyalty, the handshake. “This should apply especially when things are not going your way,” he added. Vettel said that he refuses to pin all the blame on Renault. A Red Bull on a pick-up truck was a common sight in testing “Everyone has in the past made their mistakes,” said the German, “but we are a team that in the last few years has had so much success and now we are sticking together.” He said that he is not setting any goals or even expecting the worst next weekend in Australia, where many pundits are tipping a struggle for Vettel to emerge even from the ‘Q1′ qualifying segment. “Once we are there,” said Vettel, “we will do the best job we can and then adjust our goals accordingly. “If we are competitive, of course I want to win again,” he told Sport Bild. “But at the moment it makes no sense even to talk about the title.” (GMM) Subbed by AJN. Tweet Related NewsHorner happy to have Illien working with RenaultHorner: If things are left as they are Renault could be pushed outHorner claims Renault is 75 bhp down on MercedesRed Bull: Engine freeze situation is ridiculousRenault: Our works team is called Red BullAre Red Bull really building their own F1 engine?Red Bull: We will be the proper Renault works teamMarko wants Renault on par with Mercedes in 2015Horner wrong to blame Renault for Austria problemsRenault: No intention to sell the F1 engine department fools We shall see in less then 7 days. Exciting times await. kazza Wow, vettel speaking about honesty! These people with short memories…multi-21 seb, yeah multi-21! karlich *rolls eyes* Was the original article published in Italy? KevinW This is a crap story recycled from Grandprix dot com, that not only does not support its own headline, but fails to support any of its content. To the contrary, all the quotes included state exactly the opposite. A more accurate header for this story would be “”Despite media talk of disruption, Red Bull and Vettel remain committed to stay the course”. This is supported by the body of text and the quotations included. Why is F1 – the most technical motor sport on the planet – covered by gossip magazine hacks? http://darrenstuart.com ninjamonk I don’t think McLaren would allow RedBull to use Honda engines in 2015 and to be honest I am not sure RedBull would want another untested engine. karlich hehe… because gossip is so puuurtyyy =El Presidente= blablabla, of course he is not running away now.. where should he go? home? what a nonsense. If the RB proves to be a really dreadful lump im sure he will be moving away for 2015 if he gets offered a ferrari drive (or similar) Anyway it is god to see RB struggle a lot, and i hope they can not recover in time to clinch a 5th title. actually a year without the pesky german winning a race would be much appreciated mopar21222 After 4 fly-away DNFs, could RB persuade Honda to roll-out their package (presuming it is ready to go) and use the rest of the season as a testing year, since the championship would be lost anyways? Nobody A good option for them would be BMW as a supplier as they are really efficient when it comes to “green” engines. Krunksoft Man oh man, the tantrums we will see if that RB10 shows some pace early in the season. This would by far be the most satisfying title if Red Bull can win it. Hugo Lafreniere Bingo. Hopefully the only 21 he sees this season is his rank after a race. kazza It should depend on the state & competitiveness of the Renault engine at that point of time, if RB wants the Honda or not, don’t you think? bobmendon Haters will hate bobmendon Haters will hate again. Hugo Lafreniere I’m hating already! RBC Exactly. RBC And lovers will love. People love and hate for reasons which can be valid. Quit hating the haters. RBC Classic Red Bull$#!t. Marko already confirmed that Red Bull have spoken to other engine manufacturers about switching engines, now Horner says they haven’t. Spartacus And Kettel is gonna miss seeing his own “finger”! hahaha Honda will also not give them an engine. Ross is to influencial in this story. Nor will Ferrari or Mercedes. Options are an in house engine, cosworth, maybe a deal with Toyota, Bmw, Audi, Vw. If it is BMW I would be worried as a tifosi, their turbo engines were monsters. Red Bull should be wary of moving too suddenly to another engine, certainly because of Renaults track record in the past turbo era. It would be nothing but a panic move. It think Renault will overcome their problems eventually. Let them have a bad year, would be good for f1. I’m rooting for Felipe in the awesome looking Martini Williams. hahaha And for what it’s worth, can’t wait till the day Vettel drives for Ferrari. Maybe with Kimi and after he’s retired, Seb vs Lewis in the Scuderia. karlich I’d love to see the direct quote of Helmut Marko confirming talks to other engine suppliers have taken place. What I gathered so far, Marko hasn’t denied talks, which isn’t the same as confirming. Further, this tidbit has been reported by Sport Bild, a well known tabloid full of gossip. And who started the gossip?Oh, Giancarlo Minardi… ring any bells? I don’t see how managing pre-season problems is the same as escalation of whatever gossip circulates the lesser worthy “news sources” RBC Agreed. The articles I found said he didn’t deny it, rather than say he was doing it. So I was wrong. I don’t however subscribe to the view that Giancarlo Minardi knows nothing about the behind the scenes situation in F1. Like Eddie Jordon, people laugh at him and he has been right many times. nakagoli and adolescent perverts will perve! karlich True, Jordan and Minardi do know a lot about the dirty little secrets of F1 paddock talk, but even so, talk is talk. Not saying there is no chance of Red Bull changing engine suppliers, but starting talks now? Now amidst all this trouble solving? Now where they anyway have to stick to the Renault for the whole season. I mean, it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to start talks now. RBC I can’t see Merc or Ferrari giving them engines, so they only have Honda. I can’t see the FIA letting Renault stay the worst engine forever. Also fuel consumption issues might actually make a working Renault engine the one to have. Who knows? Resultant Asteroid I was wondering the same thing, everything between double quotes in this article contradicts everything outside them in it. Michel Weij Can we not agree that Marko must some times just shut up. By opening his mouth, he does his team more harm than anything else. Michel Weij Asking BMW sounds good on paper, but I’m not so sure. With the electronics, ERS, and engine needing to be in “close knit”, existing engines would fare better i.m.o. BMW have been too long out of it, to play catch up at this stage – remember, the current engines have been in developement for 24 months + karlich Well yes and no. But I wouldn’t regard this as a specific “bad habit” of Marko. It’s not like he rambles on and on, quite on the contrary, he isn’t a very talkative person, but when asked in interviews, what’s one to do? Like I said above, there are no quotes of Marko suggesting an engine supplier switch. In response to Minardi’s allegations Marko is quoted to have said “We have a long-term contract with Renault, which is of course linked to the performance. Nevertheless, we are together as one to solve the current problems.” The only part of that answer, hinting to a possible bail out clause in the current Renault contract, is “linked to the performance”. If that’s enough to warrant all this hullabaloo over “disrupted partnerships” and “escalating troubles”, I don’t know. We don’t even know what the actual wording of the question was. However, I do think Marko is being heavily shoehorned in to a particular view that soothes current media expectations and the public’s hunger to see Red Bull’s failure of epic proportions.