Vettel taking the Bahrain testing blows like a true champion 1 March, 2014 201 Sebastian Vettel has remained cool, calm and collected despite the ordeal that has surrounded him and the Red Bull team during pre-season testing, which reached rock bottom on day three in Bahrain where the world champions failed to complete a single lap of the Sakhir circuit. Vettel told reporters afterwards, “We thought we would be in a much better place this week compared to last week. That hasn’t really been the case, and there is no point being too emotional at this stage. We really have to take it step by step.” “We know how serious it is, especially inside the team – on Renault’s side and our side. We’ve been a team [for] the last five years and things have been fantastic.” “At the moment we obviously have lots of different problems that we are curing. It’s not the best situation to be in but we can’t change it. Everybody is extremely motivated to fix it, but it doesn’t happen overnight.” “We can just hope for a better day tomorrow [Sunday] and then to have a decent start to the season in Melbourne but at this stage obviously reliability is still a big question mark. It’s difficult to say how long it will take to remedy. “I think some things will just come down to the fact that in two weeks’ time we’ll have lots of new parts on the car. We’ve had some damage because of the problems we’ve had here and the parts aren’t available overnight, so from that side I think things will get better over the next couple of weeks.” “We obviously haven’t done much running but from the little we have done has been quite promising, so I think once we get going the speed should be OK.” Reports of Vettel throwing a tantrum at Jerez are well off the mark, according to the team, and in fact the German was in surprisingly good spirits on Saturday despite the problems that have infested the RB10. He even cracked joked with course car driver when he was picked up after coming to a stop out on track during his first run , “Thank you. Please take this the right way, but I hope I don’t see you again!” A little later, at the end of short and abortive run, Vettel showed the spirit of a true champion as he gamely helped a marshal push the stricken RB10 back up the pitlane to the Red Bull garage, smiling along the way as they passed the enclaves of rival teams. (GP247) Subbed by AJN. Content on GrandPrix247.com by: staff & contributors, Reuters syndication, GMM service, Getty Images, Formula 1 teams, sponsors & organisations. karlich No stab at you guys over at GP247… just thought he is nothing “like” a true champion. He IS a true champion! Sort of settling in with the thought they’ll be an underdog team this season, at least early on in the season. All the more fun cheering them on to improve and rejoice with every step forward they make. Tamburello1994 I know I would be absolutely apoplectic right about now – most of us would be. Nice to see the media cut Sebastian some slack. RBC Vettel has years of history of abusing his team over the radio and insulting other drivers. He steals wins off his team mate against team orders. He is a KNOWN scum bag and all the PR spin won’t hide the truth. The fact that Red Bull have to put such an article out about Vettel is because of his history of screaming when he doesn’t get his own way. No similar comments about Ricciardo, Vergne and Kyvat. Why? Because they don’t whine and moan like Vettel. More Red Bull$#!t. karlich No offense dude, but all you ever seem to do is abuse this space, steal pixels on my monitor against my will and are KNOWN by most as the ONE who spins… well I’d be hard pressed for any other definition of it than, you spin vacuum. The fact is that you have a long history of screaming when Vettel has his way of winning. No sign of your positive remarks or, dare I say, support for those drivers you mention – Ricciardo, Vergne, Kvyat. Why? Because all you ever do is whine and moan about Vettel. More RBCr@p. Take it easy – we all get it that you don’t like him. How about showing your support for those you do like? Resultant Asteroid Well, credit must be put where it’s due … Glad to see AJN starting to sub articles in what I believe is a fair way. I hope this is part of a mistake-aknowledging phase, something that we all mature human beings should be doing all the time … or every now and then at least. http://www.grandprix247.com GP247 AJN does not write the articles or change the context. His role is sub-editing only. We report what we see without prejudice and we believe the hardships Renault are going through we predicted but were scoffed out. We feel vindicated but at the same time want Renault to deliver great engines to their customers so we can have a great season of F1 racing. In the end we are die-hard fans who care for well being of our sport. Tamburello1994 Don’t run out of fuel on your victory lap. 😉 Barely hinged I’m certainly not a Vettle or RB fan, but I have to give him and the team it’s due for what they’ve accomplished these last few years. I won’t bet against AJN and predict we’ll find “the reports of [Red Bull’s] death were greatly exaggerated” before the season is through. RBC Massive comments supporting Lewis, Kimi, Alonso all over this site. Perhaps you should look for them. Like when people asked why Kyvat got the nod ahead of DaCosta, I detailed his stats. Ricardo, why he got chosen over Vergne, his many qualifying performances which matter to Red Bull race strategy. Like when Kimi left Lotus for Ferrari, after they didn’t pay him for a year and abused him on team radio despite earning 80% of their points. Like when people say Alonso is garbage yet he was almost WDC twice in the last 4 years. Loads of positive comments. But if you think I speak garbage, just skip my comments. I’ve criticised Vettel for factual events. I’ve attacked Red Bull for factual events. If you don’t like facts, read the other posts not mine. Got it? I’m supporting the truth, maybe you hate that. karlich And based on my viewing of your past 20 comments, thanks to Disqus, I see 19/20 comments of yours lamenting over the evil, stupidity and incompetence of Red Bull, Renault and Vettel. Granted, prior to Disqus you may have showed some constructive comments, I shall not deny you that. I don’t think you speak garbage (actually I think it’s a fact you do, alas, that’s my own personal view) but since you feel so inclined to keep repeating your anti-Vettel prose a staggering 95% of the time you type something, I too feel so inclined to wind you up 😉 If you have high blood pressure, feel free to skip my replies. Got it? RBC So rather than ignoring my comments you went and looked at 20 of them. Classic. Why I comment on RBR and abetted so much is they talk such Bu!! $#it all the time. The other teams don’t do that. Red Bull and Renault kept saying there were no major issues and the engine freeze didn’t bother them. Then the Renault CEO is begging for an extension and the Red Bull Car hardly runs on the track for any of the 3 tests. Compare that to Kobyashi who said from the start that the Caterham was worse than a GP2 car. He was HONEST so nothing to say about that. I just call out the cheats and the liars. It happens to be RBR right now and Renault. They were talking about how awesome their engine was months ago, how it was running in the dyno perfectly. Then we find out they never even bolted it all together. Then they say it is a minor issue. Then… Lies. karlich Well you see, I guess we are much the same in some twisted way in that both of us are bothered by one, if different, sort of behavior while we both agree on one common trait we seem to possess: persistence. Guess we will be swinging words at each other for some time to come, albeit, hope you don’t take any of this personal. Let’s just call it sportsmanship among forum jockeys. Resultant Asteroid Well, since there is a change in the right direction (based not only on my viewpoint, but on many other ppl’s below), I believe the correct reply from me is not to open the box of the past and throw evidences and exibits here and there. The important point here is that there is change in – what some of us at least believe is – the right direction. Resultant Asteroid Agreed. Also, as u mentioned before, it will be interesting to see RB and Vettel come from the back (without any “superior car” and “we are actually fighting against Newey” claims) … u know, just to prove to the immature babies (who are unable to control their hate and envy) what is very obvious to us, so that maybe … maybe … they will look in the mirrors and start seeing what we already can see. So, does everybody agree that “RB do NOT have the fastest car, and are in deep s*** two weeks before the start of the season” ?!!! Is it unanimous … hah?… The guy who hates Vettel more than he hates his mother-in-law … agreed? huh? … The kid who hangs a poster of Vettel and throws arrows & knives at it every day? agreed? The woman at the back ? … ok? … The gentleman in-front ? … peace? … Ok, let’s start the season 😉 RBC I call it speaking the truth. That might upset you and others who don’t like the truth, and others may appreciate it. I don’t care. I just care about the truth. Red Bull were caught on many occasions cheating, including a video of Webber’s front wing flexing against the rules. Like Lance Armstrong they found a way to not get caught, or punished, but many teams and commentators made mention of their cheating. For almost 3 years the other teams said Red Bull had to have an illegal ride height adjuster and then Red Bull were caught with one. The FIA didn’t punish them but they did find it. Google it. When I state these facts some people hate me for it. So what? The facts are still the facts. I’m happy to state them. karlich For some you are absolutely right. But the history of caught, uncaught, punished or unpunished cheating in F1 runs in the veins of every, and I repeat every, championship winning team. So nothing too specific to Red Bull. For some you actually take high profile speculation as fact because you are suspicious from the get go. Excuse me, but speculation is just that and nothing more until proven a fact. For some you clearly don’t understand the nature of F1 and FIA regulations. Unless something isn’t specifically forbidden by the rules, it is by definition legal. So take your grudge to FIA. Now, of course you may venture in the greater conspiracy theory of Red Bull paid stooges in the seats of FIA who may see to it that certain faux pas are conveniently overlooked, but that is something not you, not I or some of the most fervent Red Bull whistle blowers a la Michael Schmidt and Giancarlo Minardi can either confirm or refute. On a completely different matter though… I must admire your conviction about speaking “the truth”. You can Google all you want, and trust me, so do I, but that proves nothing, much the less any truth behind what really goes on. You see, the only certain thing is that everything is uncertain. And that too is a fact. RBC Watch the video of Webber’ front wing flexing. Nothing uncertain about that. Read about the FIA putting stickers on the Red Bull car two years ago to stop them adjusting their illegal ride height adjuster hidden in the middle shocker. See the articles about Red Bull running an illegal engine map then saying they misunderstood the rules. Those are publicly stated events that Red Bull confirmed with press releases. None of it conspiracy theory stuff. Google it. Tamburello1994 I’ve lost count on how many times you’ve had this debate with contributors here at Yalla / Gp247 and not once have you ever convinced anyone of your conspiracies. Zero, zilch, nada. Go look up the definition of the word: “insanity”. RBC I’m not here to convince anyone. I’m here to state the truth. You don’t like the truth. You never have. I do recall one person who argued against me for a week on PF1 and finally after they found the articles on Red Bull and their illegal ride height adjuster they admitted that they were wrong, Red Bull cheated and I was right. Plus several thousand people read these pages, few comment, so a poll of those who comment is never proof that everyone thinks a certain way. And there are several other people who have commented here on the last few weeks about Red Bull cheating. I’d say its your insanity to think that I’m writing here to convince people. Most people can’t change their minds despite the truth. I’m posting for those very rare sane people to know the facts, research it themselves and see the truth. BTW that is NOT you. Tamburello1994 I see no distinction between: “I’m not here to convince anyone” and “I’m posting for those very rare sane people to know the facts.” More proof of the word salad that is “RBC”. karlich @RBC , how about this, I have read the facts and have made up my mind to support the most vile, deceitful team in F1, alongside their young Sith apprentice and Chancellor Marko and Grand Moff Horner, Governor of the Imperial Death Star in Milton Keynes. Now you go on chanting “No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.” Or whatever it is you believe to be evangelizing here. So here’s another “fact” for your personal bible of “truths” – @karlich is an evil, deceitful, dishonest person. I can live with that, can you? Tamburello1994 . . . . And you! What the heck you doin getting him started?! 😛 RBC The difference is I don’t care if you agree or not. I care that the truth is stated. Which is why your lack of being convinced by the facts has never stopped me posting. Get it? RBC I can live with that and I have been living with that for years. Facts never interest you. You never google the articles. You never explain your illogical comments based on nothing but your opinions. I’m used to it and at peace with it. Otherwise I would not post here. Tamburello1994 That’s my whole point dummy. Most (myself included) here have long since disregarded you as some blithering idiot that hasn’t got a clear grasp on reality. I have no idea what karlich is trying accomplish. You didn’t look up that definition did you? I-N-S-A-N-I-T-Y. fools “Like when people say Alonso is garbage yet he was almost WDC twice in the last 4 years. Loads of positive comments. ” RBC Yeah I know it, the Einstein reference to doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. I don’t expect a different outcome, I expect you to defend your bias and your prejudices with your lies. I expect you to call my references to facts as me being a blithering idiot. I don’t write those things for you. I write them for EVERYONE who comes to this site. When you work that out, you will see that you are the insane one, thinking that your comments will change my behavior. Also, as already stated, you don’t know what most people who read this site think. You only know what you and about 3 other people think, based on their posts here. But since it agrees with you, you see that as MOST people. And even if most people don’t agree with me, I don’t care. Einstein was called a crack pot by 99% of the world’s physicists and yet he was right. Red Bull cheated, got away with it and those facts are available for those that search for them. Whatever you think about that is irrelevant. Tamburello1994 Sounds like a sad life for you Cheats. You almost have me feeling sorry for you – key word being ALMOST. RBC It isn’t a sad life. I have an awesome life, filled with the truth. And whatever you feel is irrelevant to me. Whenever you can’t respond to the substance of what I write about F1, you turn the discussion into a personal attack on me. That is your very predictable solution to being wrong. I’m used to it. RBC Positive about Alonso, not to the liars that pretend he is the worst driver in F1. Anything that is positive upsets someone that disagrees with that statement. Tamburello1994 You sound like you’re trying to convince yourself more than anything else. Keep telling yourself that. Positive reinforcement. RBC Whatever it sounds like to you has nothing to do with reality. It was you that attempted to convince me of how my life must be. In fact you brought up the quality of my life as a topic of discussion. I’ve never mentioned it here before. When I responded to your discussion you turned that into a false view of something it is not. This is your typical manipulative “attack the person not the argument” behavior. Which is why I don’t care what you think. What started as a conversation about Red Bull PR spin and Vettel turned into you judging my life without knowing me. Not my points about Vettel or Red Bull. As you always do… I’m writing this, like my other posts, for OTHER people to see how you operate, so when you pull the same evasive sleezy tricks on them, they can see what it really is. Tamburello1994 Sorry man I can’t do this anymore. Your obviously sick and it wouldn’t be sporting to continue on. Good luck in all endeavors Cheats. RBC As I said, you always attack the person when they don’t agree with you. You never have a real discussion of the facts about F1 and the related evidence.