Flawless Hamilton powers to his first Monza victory

Lewis Hamilton (GBR) McLaren MP4-27 leads at the satrt of the race. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.

Lewis Hamilton leads the pack through the first chicane on the opening lap of the Italian GP

Sep.9 (GP247) From the moment the red lights went out Lewis Hamilton looked most likely to win the Italian Grand Prix as he powered into a lead which he only briefly relinquished during the pitstop period, to claim his first win at the legendary Monza circuit.

Race winner Lewis Hamilton (GBR) McLaren MP4-27 takes the chequered flag at the end of the race. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.The McLaren driver crossed the finish line 4.3 seconds ahead of Sergio Perez who drove a sensational race to take second place, for Sauber, after carving his way through the field from 11th on the grid, overtaking both Ferrari‘s within sight of the finish line.

The foundation for Hamilton’s third win of the season – his 20th grand prix win and McLaren’s 180th – was laid with his strong showing in qualifying a day earlier; thereafter he made a quick getaway and always seemed well in control of proceedings, increasing his pace or holding station when required. The win catapults him from fifth in the championship standings to second.

Savouring the unique atmosphere of  Monza, Hamilton declared to Niki Lauda during the podium interviews: “It’s been fantastic to win here. I’m just so happy for my team, it’s been a fantastic day. Fernando is a two-time world champion so I’m very happy for him too.”

Sergio Perez (MEX) Sauber, race winner Lewis Hamilton (GBR) McLaren and Fernando Alonso (ESP) Ferrari celebrate on the podium. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.Perez made an inspired, brave decision to start the race on the hard Pirelli tyre, and he made them last until lap 28 of the 53 laps race, way more than his rivals who started on the softer (medium) option tyres. At the end he was easily the fastest man on track and closing in on Hamilton at over a second a lap. Alas, once again (rewind to Malaysia) time ran out for the young Mexican.

“It was a great race for me and my team. It’s unbelievable to have a podium for my team at Monza. It’s very special. I went for prime tyres at the start and I decided to stop late. That gave me very fresh tyres at the end. It’s unbelievable,” said Perez.

For the tifosi, maybe their drivers did not win, but good team work and a storming drive from tenth on the grid by Fernando Alonso ensured that he remained with a handy lead in the championship points standings, while his main title rivals, before the race, succumbed to mechanical problems. Alonso took third, with Felipe Massa fourth.

Fernando Alonso (ESP) Ferrari F2012 overtakes Felipe Massa (BRA) Ferrari F2012 at the first corner. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.The Brazilian will have done his shares the world of good as he ran a strong second for most of the race, before ‘moving aside’ to allow Alonso through.

Alonso summed up the afternoon from his perspective, “It was a difficult race starting from 10th but we knew we had possibly the quickest car this weekend. We had the pace to recover the position so it was a good result for us.”

The racing gods have a sense of justice, it seems, because they rewarded the three drivers who were eliminated by Romain Grosjean’s wayward Lotus at Spa, with a podium at Monza!

It was a day of frustration for Jenson Button and the Red Bull pair. The trio, who were the main challengers to Alonso before Monza, did not finish.

Button was sluggish off the line, having to settle for third behind Massa, but shortly after the pitstops was comfortably in second. But on lap 33 the McLaren coasted to the side of the track, just before Parabolica, and parked with an apparent fuel pick-up problem. His race was run.

Lewis Hamilton (GBR) McLaren MP4-27 leads at the start of the race. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.Vettel ran strongly early on, and was involved in another wheel to wheel tussle with Alonso, a replay of Monza 2011. Vettel defended aggressively when the Ferrari driver attacked.

The moves prompted Ferrari to tweet mid-race: “Clearly Vettel forgot last year, when Fernando behaved very differently…”

On lap 26 Vettel went a step to far, squeezing Alonso onto the sand exiting the first Lesmo. The Spaniard was furious, shouting over the radio: “OK, that’s enough.”

The stewards agreed and slapped Vettel with a drive through penalty. The world champion fell down to ninth and while making his way up the field, his engineer came over the radio: “Stop the car, we must save the engine.” The world champion duly did so. Game Over.

A few laps later Mark Webber drove his Red Bull into the pits and into retirement with absolutely no grip, after catching a big moment exiting Ascari. It was Red Bull’s first double DNF since Korea 2010.

Sebastian Vettel (GER) Red Bull Racing RB8. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012. Meanwhile Kimi Raikkonen benefited from the misfortunes of Vettel and Button, although the Lotus simply did not look like the powerhouse it has been at circuits demanding less top speed. This forced The Iceman to dig deep and go wheel to wheel with just about everyone.

Raikkonen finished fifth and in doing so is now third in the championship standings, a mere point behind Hamilton – with the Iceman yet to win a race this season…

Another world champion ‘in the wars’ was Michael Schumacher, who again made the best of the Mercedes, to take sixth place and once again had the better of teammate Nico Rosberg, who was seventh across the finish line.

Paul Di Resta could not extract the performance he had found in the Force India during qualifying. Although he did get as high as fourth during the pitstop window he was destined to slog it out for a consolation eighth place at the end.

Kimi Raikkonen (FIN) Lotus E20 leads Nico Rosberg (GER) Mercedes AMG F1 W03. Formula One World Championship, Rd 13, Italian Grand Prix, Race, Monza, Italy, Sunday 9 September 2012.Ninth place for Kamui Kobayashi made it a great day for Sauber at Monza, in contrast to their expensive and heart breaking race day a week earlier at Spa. The result entrenches them firmly in sixth place in the constructors championship behind Mercedes and well ahead of Force India.

The final point went to Bruno Senna in the Williams. The Brazilian, embroiled in a  number of  fist waving scraps, beat his teammate Pastor Maldonado who had a relatively sedate afternoon on his way to eleventh place.

Jerome D’Ambrosio, standing in for one race banned Grosjean, brought the Lotus home in 13th place. Although not a stellar return to grand prix racing, his was a solid performance for a driver who has had hardly any seat time in an F1 car since last year, when he drove for Marussia. His case is perhaps proof that there is something seriously wrong with the system of developing fringe drivers into F1.

Monza has in the past been notorious for pile-ups, especially in the opening lap in the turn 1-2-3 complex. This year the race was virtually accident free apart from Jean Eric Vergne losing his Toro Rosso under braking into Turn 1, when something appeared to snap at the rear of his car, which then jolted violently and launched into the air before coming to a stop, the French rookie’s race ending on the spot.

Thus ended the European leg of the 2012 season, as the F1 circus now moves to Asia for five races, then to North America before the finale in South America – and along the way the world championship title will be decided.

Subbed by AJN.

Italian Grand Prix, Monza – Sunday, 9 September 2012

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time Grid Pts
1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 53 Winner 1 25
2 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 53 +4.3 secs 12 18
3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 53 +20.5 secs 10 15
4 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 53 +29.6 secs 3 12
5 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 53 +30.8 secs 7 10
6 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 53 +31.2 secs 4 8
7 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 53 +33.5 secs 6 6
8 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 53 +41.0 secs 9 4
9 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 53 +43.8 secs 8 2
10 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 53 +48.1 secs 13 1
11 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 53 +48.6 secs 22
12 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 53 +50.3 secs 14
13 10 Jerome D’Ambrosio Lotus-Renault 53 +75.8 secs 15
14 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 52 +1 Lap 17
15 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 52 +1 Lap 18
16 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 20
17 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 19
18 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 23
19 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 21
20 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 51 +2 Laps 11
21 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 50 +3 Laps 24
22 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 47 +6 Laps 5
Ret 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 32 +21 Laps 2
Ret 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 8 +45 Laps 16
  • hillside

    how did Alonso pass Massa??

  • Abhinav

    Just like he managed to cross Vettel and quarter of a field, or Just lyk “Checo” passed both ferraris.

  • Butterfly

    DRS down the main straight.

  • Abhinav

    Or hindside. Massa ws managing his tyres – As u think.

    Another theory making headline which all Alonso haters are gonna come up with wud b “Ferrari bombed Button and Redbull. Hamilton ESCPAPES and won. Perez to get HRT drive next year under influence of FERRARI as to dare cross Alonso.”

    C’mon guyz show sm respect to Hamilton, Perez and Alonso rather doubting.

  • Butterfly

    @Abhinav:

    Just wait till’ the resident troll wakes up. Oh boy…

  • Abhinav

    But its worth mentioning drive of the day ws to Perez. Not only he was racing on the field but also “politically”. Letting Alonso take 2nd wud have surely pleased Ferrari to have him play WINGMAN next year. Passing Alonso was a declaration he is there for “Equal status”. I dont knw what ferrari will interpret but i still rate “Hulk” higher than “Checo”. Hulk just needs gud Car to show he is up there wid Top guyz.

  • Abhinav

    @ Butterfly
    i dont get it dear plz explain

  • Butterfly

    Abhinav:

    Rubbish! The sauber had a clever tire strategy, there’s no “equal” between Perez and Fernando. Let Perez shine in a dog of a car, not one of the fastest cars on the grid like the Sauber is.

    The boy is pretty good, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

  • Butterfly

    Abhinav:

    Explain what, the troll thing? There is this SOB visz963/alonso_is_slow trolling the life out of everybody. He shows his face everytime Alonso runs into trouble…

    I expect him to start b*itching about Alonso passing Massa on team orders or some s*hit like that.

  • Abhinav

    Maybe u tuk me wrong. What i meant ws same as u r saying. I am applauding Perez’s result not his actual race pace. For sure on fresher medium tyres. Everyone else around ws sitting ducks for him. Still he hs to mature as a Top driver. But still he came back from behind (thanks to tyre starategy as well) to narrowly miss Win at Monza. That shud b respected.
    As i said Hulk shud b picked by Ferrari. This way they can nurture a talented and cool headed driver to take lead later when Alonso retires.

  • f1 fan

    Clearly the driver of the day was Sergio Perez, hmm and also Lewis hamilton. That was a good race though, it wasn’t good to see kimi fighting to save his place despite having the car with the highest top speed, Unlucky for Button and Vettel !!

  • Butterfly

    I think Felipe is the best pick for that seat. He’s fast when the car is easy to drive – like today – but not so great when it’s difficult to drive. Ferrari should remember that the other guy is Alonso, known for his ability to work around a car’s problems. Only Hamilton can do the same.

    Hope they keep Felipe around and make sure the design team does its homework next time – pfft, flexible chassis….

  • f1 fan

    @hillside you know it bro ,as always ….

  • Abhinav

    @ Butterfly

    Yeah i hv read of him. He jus needs a person lyk me to Lock horns wid. Let him bi**h mate, i will see to him.

  • McLaren Fan

    Great race for Hamilton, Checo & Alonso.
    Massa played his part well for the team.
    Jenson what a shame it would have been nice to see if Alonso had the fight to catch Jenson also if Checo could have passed the McLaren we will never know.
    ad day for the Bull’s that will be a big investigation.
    Maldonado not in the stewards office must have been a problem with the car.

  • kaka007

    Actually massa let alonso pass him due to team orders(it was clear from radio message to massa).. but even without team orders alonso would have easily gone past massa.. and perez didn’t do anything good in securing a seat at ferrari coz he passed alonso and should alonso lose the championship this season marginally to anyone, perez can kiss goodbye to a ferrari seat atleast in next season..
    Am I the only one who thought massa was again average apart from the 1st 2 or 3 laps where he passed button and that’s not all, he nearly got overtaken by kimi n schumacher in inferior cars in the last laps finishing just ahead of both kimi n schumi..

    for me best drivers @ monza :
    hami, perez,alonso, kimi(car was crap 2day), button n vettel(before retiring), schumi(finding old form, only needs a better car now), maldonado(came through the order)
    worst drivers : webber, massa n narain
    other drivers don’t ft in any of the above 2 categories,as they had a not so bad decent day

  • Butterfly

    kaka007:

    Felipe said tire degradation was higher than expected, so maybe that had something to do with his perf. Still, he finished right behind Fernando, Ferrari got 27 points, Alonso extended his lead, not a bad day. Not bad at all.

  • Abhinav

    @ Mclaren Fan

    I Agree wid u dear. Championship nw coming into vital phase with Alonso in lead and Mclaren with refreshed form, pace and Redbull hopes lying with upcoming high downforce circuits. This is story of a blockbuster. Reminds me of 2010 Abu Dhabi.

  • McLaren Fan

    @kaka007:
    That is why I said Massa played his part well for the team.

    With him being told by Rob think about tyres Alonso behind you to me = let Alonso past. then Alonso is in DRS. Enough said.

  • Butterfly

    @Abhinav:

    Don’t forget about Ferrari’s big upgrade in Singapore. If they get it right, nobody will stop Alonso.

    I hope.

  • Abhinav

    @ Butterfly

    i am keepin my fingers crossed. I just wish Alonso wins 2012. Hw narrowly did he missed 2007 and 2010.

  • kaka007

    @Butterfly
    Personally as a Kimi fan not a great day for me coz lotus seems to have lost some of it’s cutting edge, hopeful that it was just a one off mostly due to that track structure..

  • kaka007

    And by the way Charles Pic again gets the better of Timo Glock..
    :)

  • Butterfly

    Imagine a dream-team made up of Alonso, Hamilton, and Raikkonen at Ferrari. How’s that for 3-car teams?

    kaka007:

    I’m a huge Kimi fan myself, but he’s doing okay. He’s, what, one point behind Hamilton with zero wins?

    Abhinav:

    I want to see him win it too, especially after 2007 and 2010.

  • Butterfly

    kaka007:

    Do you think Alonso & Hamilton at Marussia would give, say, Sauber a hard time?

  • kaka007

    @butterfly
    u r right, kimi drove really well..at one point was fighting and retaking position from charging perez and kept the ultrafast perez at bay for much longer tym (only due to skills of kimi than car) than anyboy else could.

    And yes, kimi is right behind hami in 3rd place in championship..

  • nns2703

    Many of the guys not only here but here but everywhere seems to forget that different drivers are driving different cars.So it is very difficult to compare two drivers driving different cars(except teammates).
    It is not that a driver driving a HRT is not quick and a driver whose car is gentle on tyres and have good pace is better.f1 is very different to other sports.Here driver’s ability only matter’s 20% nowdays and rest is down to car.If anyone here thinks that alonso or perez is a very good driver and they can score points even with a dog of a car.
    Then i will say just put that driver in caterham(this car is not bad only .5 sec off the pace of midfield(Torro Rosso)) car and then i will ask them to show their superiorness answer will be probably not.
    But i know that some guys who are just not ready to accept the truth will come up with some rubbish comment.

  • kaka007

    @butterfly
    i was not at all bashing marussia.. i’m personally beginning to like pic and that’s why i’m happy he again got the better of a supposedly better glock.

  • Butterfly

    nns2703:

    The trolls have arrived.

    You see, you have a thing for multiples of 9 and 3.

  • kaka007

    @butterfly
    don’t misinterpret me…. i like pic,kovalainen n de la rosa more than perez,maldonado,senna having better cars

  • Butterfly

    kaka007:

    I think Kovalainen would get results with a top car, but I’m not sure about the others. Okay, maybe Petrov too, but only points, no wins.

  • McHare

    Can believe Alonso got Vettle a drive through. What a joke F1 can be at times. Gifting Ferrari the championship? Wouldn’t be the first time!

  • Butterfly

    Totally off-topic:

    Kubica just won some rally. Check @antonioboselli on Twitter.

  • nns2703

    @butterfly
    sorry,i didn’t get u.

  • kaka007

    @butterfly
    pic is in an unknown category but comparing his season so far with glock, he really excelled in adverse conditions
    kovalainen is outdriving his teammates season after season after coming to caterham.
    for de la rosa, one can say his career in f1 won’t last much longer, but still he is a good team man and occasionally beats marussias and even petrov with an inferior car to caterham n marussia

  • Psych4191

    Oh look, Senna in the points again as Maldonado gets a big goose egg. I think Senna could’ve gotten a better finish had he not been punted off the Race Track by Di Resta. Seems silly that Vettel was penalised for his incident, yet Di Resta walks away with nothing (Yet Vettel gave Alonso more room than Di gave Senna.

  • f1 fan

    hey but ,Maldonado came from 22nd position to 11th, while Bruno from 13 to 10th, damn Button woudve have done such a good job, finishing second, however i hope that Hamilton wins the next race too, and challenges alonso for the title!!

  • f1 fan

    Im sure that if Perez joins ferrari we wont be able to see his true talent , because he wont be treated any differently than a no 2 driver, alongside alonso !

  • Abhinav

    What we call driver’s efficiency is he makes fewer mistakes, extract best out of car.
    Would make sense to u y Massa has his ass kicked by Alonso. Or cud u imagine Petrov extracting same point as Alonso in a Ferrari

  • Lol.

    Well, a great day for me.

    Alonso was once again nothing short of masterful. Particularly in the early race. However, it was obvious that he was allowed through by team orders. I do not understand why they did not just say move over. Team orders are perfectly legal in F1 and Massa knows he is nowhere in the title fight – don’t insult him by masking it. Massa drove a fantastic race – I feel he would benefit from moving team, ferrari is a winning car yes but he will never get another bite of the apple while fernando is there. There is clearly a great deal of respect between the two but Massa wants to win and he can’t do that at ferrari.

    Perez however was my driver of the day. It makes me chuckle to see everyone saying it was purely due to strategy, hardly. If it was due to strategy why was mercedes only 6th? They had a GREAT strategy. Very quick at the end. 2 stops may well be 10 secs slower than 1 stop but they were a lot more than 10 secs behind Sergio. Sauber is a very quick car, but Kamui is also a very quick driver and Perez once again totally outshone him. He passed a lot more cars than everyone else also.

    Kimi was great in a not so great car. D’ambrosio did as well as could be expected in a guy who has done so little running.

    Webber’s driver error was disappointing. I am a huge Webber fan and really want him to win the WDC but mistakes like this make me loose so much confidence in him. Same with Rosberg – clearly very talented but very lacluster in recent races. Today he did fine but that doesn’t make up for his previous run of bad form.

    Vettel deserved his penalty but Di Resta also deserved a penalty. You cannot penalise Vettel and not Di Resta. I suspect many will be reigniting rumours of Ferrari International Assistance…

    And yes, Pic again destroys Glock, by 30 seconds. I like Glock but he’s become incredibly cry-baby like recently and I am firmly supporting Pic nowadays.

    Get Kovy in a lotus. He deserves it.

    Vettel stopping on track, priceless. Shame Hamilton didn’t stop too!

    That’s my 2 cents. Overall very happy with the race. Just gutted Button didn’t maintain his second place :(

  • Lol.

    @NNS

    Are you for real?

    Alonso destroys Massa at nigh on every race. Except today and Monaco.

    Perez seems to destroy Kobayashi everywhere except Spa qualifyign and maybe 2 races this year (can’t remember specifics).

    Raikkonen destroys Grosjean. Totally.

    Kovalainen destroys Petrov.

    De la Rosa destroys Karthikeyan.

    There you go. Team mate comparisons. You put any of those pairings in faster cars and the results would be the same. Put alonso in a car capable of finishing 15th and he will finish 14th. In 2001, he finished 12th in a Minardi, on the track overtaking an arrows, jordans and others. Perez has been regularly setting fastest laps at points in races and 3 podiums this season now, one of them just shy of a win, while Kobayashi has 1 4th to his credit.

    You seriously want to accuse everyone else of essentially being idiots when you come out with that? Go play tetris…

  • nns2703

    @lol
    as your name is lol your comment is lol as well

  • Lol.

    @NNS

    Please explain to me how. You made a point, and I backed mine up with evidence, please show me some to prove your point and then prove to me that my comment is “lol”.

    I await your reply with anticipation.

  • Ankit

    @nns2703

    “If anyone here thinks that alonso or perez is a very good driver and they can score points even with a dog of a car.
    Then i will say just put that driver in caterham”

    Seriously, how do you come up with stuff like this? If you go by your logic and put karthikeyan in a Ferrari and Alonso in a Caterham, Alonso will still kick karthikeyan’s ass because karthikeyan cannot handle a Ferrari, because he’s only fit to drive an HRT or maybe not even that. That’s only if we go by your weird logic. If you’re comparing a Ferrari with Caterham, that’s a really stupid thing to do. Compare it with a Red Bull or Mclaren or even Lotus, then all i can say is that have a look at the drivers’ championship points again closely and you’ll have your answer. That Ferrari of Alonso’s was far more inferior to the Mclarens and the Red Bulls right from the beginning of the season and it wasn’t the 80% of the car (according to you) that got Alonso where he is. He’s up there probably 70-75% because of his driving and now the car is getting better so he’s getting the pace as well. Being a good driver involves a lot of things- talent, right amount of aggression, experience, ability to take risks and killer instinct. If according to you, you put Alonso or Perez in a Caterham, and ask them to get points for the team, they will be able to do that and that’s only because of their driving.

  • nns2703

    @lol
    i was just kidding at that time.actualy my comment are targeted towards those people who compare drivers driving for different teams such as some people start comparing perez performance to hulk and they start saying perez is better than blah,blah,blah…

  • McHare

    Another thing.. When Ferrari release their man straight into the path of another car that’s not dangerous. Alonso could have blatted straight into the side of Seb causing untold injury and damage but…… Ahh itsa Ferrari … Vom

  • Lol.

    @McHare

    There are 2 lanes in the pitlane for that reason. Although, it’s also illegal for Vettel to move accross into Alonso’s lane, which he did.

    No penalty for both or Penalty for both, you decide :)

  • Ankit

    “If anyone here thinks that alonso or perez is a very good driver and they can score points even with a dog of a car.
    Then i will say just put that driver in caterham”

    Seriously, how do you come up with stuff like this? If you go by your logic and put karthikeyan in a Ferrari and Alonso in a Caterham, Alonso will still kick karthikeyan’s ass because karthikeyan cannot handle a Ferrari, because he’s only fit to drive an HRT or maybe not even that. That’s only if we go by your weird logic. If you’re comparing a Ferrari with Caterham, that’s a really stupid thing to do. Compare it with a Red Bull or Mclaren or even Lotus, then all i can say is that have a look at the drivers’ championship points again closely and you’ll have your answer. That Ferrari of Alonso’s was far more inferior to the Mclarens and the Red Bulls right from the beginning of the season and it wasn’t the 80% of the car (according to you) that got Alonso where he is. He’s up there probably 70-75% because of his driving and now the car is getting better so he’s getting the pace as well. Being a good driver involves a lot of things- talent, right amount of aggression, experience, ability to take risks and killer instinct. If according to you, you put Alonso or Perez in a Caterham, and ask them to get points for the team, they will be able to do that and that’s only because of their driving.

  • Ankit

    That was for nns2703.

  • nns2703

    @ankit
    he was lucky at the start or if he wasn’t lucky then when his car become a lot more competetive then why didn’t he win almost every race.i m not saying that he should have won all races but he should have won atleast every third race as his car is way better then it was at the start.

  • McHare

    @Lol

    Penalty for Seb for taking his line and no penalty for releasing Alonso into traffic. F1 has already decided…. Who’s 2012 championship this is going to be don’t you think!!!

  • nns2703

    @ankit,by your philosophy button shouldn’t be one time driver champion because he was a backmarker before winning the championship.

  • Ankit

    @nns

    I’m guessing you’re not following this season closely, because this season the championship is REALLY tight. We had 7 different winners in the beginnning, that means Alonso is not the only driver who’s doing really well. There are other drivers like Hamilton, etc in superior cars who’re doing well too. The Ferrari is still bad compared to the Mcalrens and the Red Bulls, but just because Alonso’s car is better now, that doesn’t mean he should win every third race, He’s still getting onto the podium every second race and probably more number of times than anybody this season. Bro look at the points he’s got. He’s consistent and that’s what matters. I don’t understand why how you come up with a logic that says a good driver has to win every third race in a car that’s worse than 3 other sets of cars on the grid. He’s still on the podium and getting the points and he’s still got most number of wins this season (along with lewis after today) enough said!

  • Ankit

    Alonso’s car is only better, not the best yet! If he had the best car, then MAYBE, just maybe your point may hold some weightage. But until then your comment is baseless. That way I could argue why Vettel or Hamilton is not winning every third race in the best cars. Alonso is managing to win more number of times and come on the podium more number of times than they are.

  • Ankit

    That’s nowhere near my “philosophy”. Button is a good driver and not a backmarker and he deserved the championship that he won. Button had a really good car that year and he drove that car really well. I have nothing more to add to that because I don’t exactly know what you meant to say with that comment.

  • Ankit

    @Mchare

    There were two pit lanes. How was he released into traffic? It was perfectly alright. That way Webber escaped penalty for a more dangerous release when he almost took Massa out in the pitlane at Spa. This incident was nothing compared to that.

  • Speedo

    Alonso had a under performing car at the begining of the season and he still performed while Massa failed. The McLarens were good at the first 3 races and then fell of and inspite of this Lewis was able to perform and was consistent while Button was complaining. These two are the best two drivers and I hope it will be a fight to the finish between them and let the best man win although I want Lewis to win. Having said this, I surely would say that these two drivers would make any dog of a car work for them.

  • Speedo

    @Butterfly, I like your sense of humour.

  • Hawk

    @Lol
    Lewis hater. You’ll always wish he breaks down! Witch.. Aren’t his 3 DNFs enough already?
    And you shied away from comparing the McLaren teammates. Remember it’s the only team with 2 world champions! But Ofcourse the comparison embarrasses you. Your wishful thinking can only go so far.

  • alonso_is_slow

    Alonso podium = Ferrari’s team orders + Ferrari-friendly stewards + Button car faillure.

    Masterful!

  • Forza Ferrari

    Great race and a great result for Ferrari. Sure it could’ve been better but it also could’ve been worse, so I’m quite happy with the result.
    People who criticise Ferrari’s team orders are pathetic fools. Massa doesn’t have even a slightest chance to win the WDC anymore, but Alonso does have. Alonso is in 1st place in the points standings and where is Massa? It was a completely logical and right decision to let Alonso pass Massa and every other team would’ve done the same thing in a position like that. It would’ve been really stupid if Alonso and Massa would’ve had to fight each other and then possibly both end up crashing out of the race. It was a completely justified and right decision by Ferrari.
    And as for Vettel’s penalty, it was definitely justified and correct penalty. And I’m not saying this as a Ferrari fan. Vettel didn’t leave Alonso any room at all. Alonso had to go off the track with all four wheels and it was completely different compared to last year’s incident where Alonso left Vettel more room.

  • Lol.

    @Hawk

    You’re right, I do loathe lewis. Not as a driver though, I loathe the fact that he posts sensitive telemetry on twitter, he acts like an infant, he often causes collisions, and with his immense talent, one of the top 3 drivers there, he manages to screw himself out of world titles. He should be a 3 time champ now, easily. But he’s not. However, the fact i dont like him doesn’t stop me accepting that today he was totally faultless. As was button until his engine problem.

    Also, I did not shy away from comparing the McLaren team mates. Hamilton is not destroying button, and button is not destroying Hamilton. I also didnt compare Mercedes, force india, torro rosso, or red bull. You seem to have forgot about them.

    Also what wishful thinking are you talking about? I was actually joking about wanting him to break down, because today he didn’t deserve it. Granted, when he does break down, I do feel a sense of joy because at the end of the day, I don’t like him. I don’t like Vettel either, or Vergne, or Maldonado but I don’t see you complaining about my hatred of them.

    Anything else? Or have you quite finishing failing to pick me apart?

  • Hawk

    @Forza
    I beg to disagree. It’s clear the stewards fell for another of Alonso’s baits from the cockpit. Had he kept quiet nothing would have happened to Vettel. I think it was unfair. We all know Grosjean’s ban was due to Alonso’s involvement. Earlier in the year Lewis survived sanction bse Nico did it to Alonso a few laps later! I hv failed to differentiate that move from:
    Valencia: Lewis – Maldonado
    Today: Di Resta – Senna
    Hungary: Kimi – Grosjean
    Germany: Jenson – Vettel
    Can someone else help me by adding on?

  • Hawk

    @Lol
    Let’s leave it at that. You’ve made your point.
    @Forza
    I beg to disagree. IMO Vettel’s drive through was unfair. If Alonso had kept quiet he would have survived. The stewards fell for Alonso’s bait. We know Grosjean’s ban was because Alonso was involved. Lewis survived sanction bse Nico did it to Alonso and he complained. I have failed to differentiate Vettel’s move from:
    Valencia: Lewis – Pastor
    Today: Di Resta – Senna
    Hungary: Kimi – Grosjean
    Germany: Jenson – Vettel
    Can someone help me with more? This move is quite common.

  • fools

    Hawk are u freaking blind man? Vettels move was dangerous. Fan or not a fan…its a gentleman sport…think of this Vettel got burnt by Alonso even when he got pushed off in todays race. Which led to some damage under Alonso car and right mirror. If your slower and at that point Vettel knew he was…Alonso was slip streaming aggressively but smart and very calculated move and with all that space in that turn he Vettel only manages to run off Alonso clearly Alonso 4 tires of track and last yr Vettel barely 2 tires and much more aggressive with his nose coming in and you can see Alonso let him pass because he was the faster car.

  • fools

    I called it…Alonso would get podium or win the race…He didnt win but upgraded his points lead. Which is what matters in the end.

    Good job Massa.

    Loser: Vettel and Button. They deserved what they got. Karma for Button he doesn’t like podium in Monza anyways.

    Vettel…enough said.

    Alonso WDC ON PACEEEEE!

  • fools

    Raikkonen finished fourth and in doing so is now third in the championship standings, a mere point behind Hamilton – the Iceman yet to win a race this season…

    umm he finished 5th editor? lol

  • Speedo

    V?n? V?d? V?c? (Caesar) I came, I saw, I conquered. Hamilton the gladiator conquered Monza.. What ever you do, do not join Ferrari. It was jeers that greeted you for winning by the the uncouth tifosi eyeties. The only venue in the F1 racing world that jeers the winner (unless you are in a Ferrari). By the way I am a Sri Lankan and not British.

  • Speedo

    Veni Vidi Vici (Caesar) I came, I saw, I conquered. Hamilton the gladiator conquered Monza.. What ever you do, do not join Ferrari. It was jeers that greeted you for winning by the the uncouth tifosi eyeties. The only venue in the F1 racing world that jeers the winner (unless you are in a Ferrari). By the way I am a Sri Lankan and not British.